Because the recitals are now still there, not here.
PianoTell Recital (model) Ideas
I have no opinion on PW recitals because they belong on PW 
However for future P|T recitals, I would consider it an honour to listen to advanced players and novices alike 
If we want to keep it simple maybe we can start by simply not hosting the recitals in the Learners forum (nor the Pianist Zone). I think a separate forum would make a major difference already. It could even be on top of the forums list because it would arguably the most exciting part.
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@Rubens I understand how you feel, but hopefully if members of all levels start to participate then you would feel ok?
I recently joined an in-person playing group (after being added to the mailing list by someone I know like 5-6 years back) and the friend I brought and I are much more advanced than most. But everyone is nice and appreciative of everyone else and there's a little social time afterward, and no one feels bad at all. We were so warmly welcomed that I wondered why I was scared to show up for so long.
I probably won't join the recitals here because of two reasons: I'm eternally working on chamber music now, and I don't have the time/energy to listen to everyone's playing and respond. I'm aware that I'm online all day and active on the forum, but I'm trying not to be! But I think you should participate in the recitals and people will really appreciate getting to listen to your playing and to have your feedback.
Also want to comment that Sam made it pretty clear that the upcoming recital is happening on PW and I'm not sure if that's the long term plan? I wouldn't blame him if he doesn't want to run parallel recitals in two places.
I have sent a few private invitations to advanced pianists on PW to join here (simply because they are the minority, not just here but in every piano forum).
And just to make it clear, there are already a few very advanced pianists here (including Joseph Fleetwood who is a galaxy ahead of me in terms of piano accomplishments). But we don't want to bother anyone to join the recitals. It has to come from them, of course. We just have make sure they know the recitals exist (well, when they exist), that's all!
I really don't mind what system gets chosen (if any), but speaking strictly for myself what I enjoyed most about the PW recital system is the complete randomness of it all.
If someone right before or after me plays a long and complicated concert level piece it doesn't make me feel inferior (though very jealous of course 
) But they have played for 50 years and I am one year in, no problem.
Whereas if I get lumped in with the toddler section where I belong, I might start to feel terrible because someone who started later than I did made it to the intermediate level.
Again I don't have a very strong opinion either way, but I have a slight preference for completely random 
Sophia I agree, I think the PW recitals are just fine the way they are. All levels are welcome to participate. I can understand when a teacher hosts their own recitals and decides the order, but they know their students so they can decide to order the recital as they see fit. Order by submission date/time works fine for PW.
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Great ideas!
Shall we run the next Quarterly recital in parallel with ABF on PW? We might start with duplicate submissions on PW and PT and see how it all works out.
Based on all the suggestions, this is doable:
- On the day the recital submission period starts, a volunteer or leader with special permissions creates a Recital thread.
- Every performer submits their performance. Nobody can see it but them and the leader/mods. They can edit it at any time.
- P|T doesn't host the performance. The performance can be on YouTube, Vimeo, SoundCloud. Other embeds may work as well but those are the ones I tested. Let me know your favorite ones.
- On the day the recital goes live, the leader approves all the submissions.
- I think we can have a Recital banner at the top of homepage to announce it.
- Optional: The leader has the ability to crosspost the recital across forums and super sticky the recital as well.
- Optional: The leader can delete posts that don't include the performance in them yet, so that the submission order can be enforced like PW.
Now that PianoTell works locally on my laptop, I was able to pilot this. I crammed everything in one screenshot so that you get the idea. Only the submitter/leader can see the post that is marked as Awaiting approval.
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Next to the themed and quarterly recitals there is always one month left. Maybe we should have recitals those months. I'm afraid if we have the same recital here and on pw it's going to be a bit chaotic.
Josephine Next to the themed and quarterly recitals there is always one month left. Maybe we should have recitals those months. I'm afraid if we have the same recital here and on pw it's going to be a bit chaotic.
On the contrary, I think having it at the same time is better because if anyone has prepared a piece they will submit it to both recitals at the same time, wheras if someone is not ready they will skip and wait for the recital on the other forum. Therfore, the participation will be split up and lower on both forums.
BartK If we are to have recitals on PT it is my belief that they
need to be different in some way from PW recitals. Firstly they need to appeal to PT members so perhaps they should be more informal. Besides fully polished pieces, work in progress pieces could be encouraged. I am not sure if comments are a good thing. In my view the timing of recitals on PT should be different to PW. Some difficult choices to make.
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Pallas I second everything Pallas said here. I too have no preference what system P|T will adopt... my only wish is that it will adopt its own culture in time. I know that some have years of history tied to PW, so some will feel a lot more nostalgic about the place. Whereas I have good memories (it's where I met you all), there are some things I would like to leave behind in there (some of the cultural aspects). And I absolutely think that @Sam's wishes are gospel when it comes to recitals. I mean it's his baby
Just speaking for myself, I wouldn't mind if this recital environment is sufficiently different from PW so it won't feel like competition. For example three times a year instead of quarterly, distinctions like that to make it unique to this forum. Perhaps January, May and September. Maybe even each themed - for example January - anything goes. May - themed recital. September - everyone is wearing something blue. I'm joking of course... but seriously, I'm really hoping this place will come to stand on its own and not depend on whatever goes on in PW. That's my wish 
