PianoTell Recital #3 β Meta Feedback
See? I'm not the only one who is unanimous in that
I had planned to record my recital piece today, but have other things to attend to, unexpectedly, so I will submit 'plan B', later.
Here's the mid-week count:
- rogerch β Flutter by rogerch
- Nightowl β Frankie and Johnnie
- Peyton β A Dream of Far Away (part two)
- Animisha β To a Wild Rose by Edward MacDowell
- keff β Summertime arr. by Brent Edstrom (From Porgy and Bess)
- iternabe β MalagueΓ±a arr. by Faber
- Sophia + Special Guest Star β Just a "Good Old Tune" by Willard A. Palmer
- rach3master β Call of Silence: Attack on Titan OST by Hiroyuki Sawano
- plop_symphony β A Hermit Crab Surfing by Akira Miyoshi
- Player1 β Legend of Madrid by Nancy Faber
- MarieJ β I Giorni by Ludovico Einaudi
- hebele β Minuet in G by Christian Petzold
- Pathbreaker β Op. 116 No. 6, Intermezzo in E major by Brahms
- Calavera β Antipyretic by Hitoshi Sakimoto
- WieWaldi β Frisco Blues by Christian Fuchs
- Sam β Schumann op 15-6 - "An Important Event" from the Scenes from Childhood
- SalmonJack β Just Mist by SalmonJack
- Rob β Pembrokeshire Promise by Rob
- BicBic β Mazurka Op.6 No.2 by Chopin
- Sgisela β Danza de los ñÑñigos by Ernesto Lecuona
I'm glad we reached 20. There are still a couple of more days for last minute performances!
Still working on mine... but at least one artistic decision was easily made!
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There's one last day for submissions, folks!
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Here's the final update before the recital goes live tomorrow!
- rogerch β Flutter by rogerch
- Nightowl β Frankie and Johnnie
- Peyton β A Dream of Far Away (part two)
- Animisha β To a Wild Rose by Edward MacDowell
- keff β Summertime arr. by Brent Edstrom (From Porgy and Bess)
- iternabe β MalagueΓ±a arr. by Faber
- Sophia + Special Guest Star β Just a "Good Old Tune" by Willard A. Palmer
- rach3master β Call of Silence: Attack on Titan OST by Hiroyuki Sawano
- plop_symphony β A Hermit Crab Surfing by Akira Miyoshi
- Player1 β Legend of Madrid by Nancy Faber
- MarieJ β I Giorni by Ludovico Einaudi
- hebele β Minuet in G by Christian Petzold
- Pathbreaker β Op. 116 No. 6, Intermezzo in E major by Brahms
- Calavera β Antipyretic by Hitoshi Sakimoto
- WieWaldi β Frisco Blues by Christian Fuchs
- Sam β Schumann op 15-6 - "An Important Event" from the Scenes from Childhood
- SalmonJack β Just Mist by SalmonJack
- Rob β Pembrokeshire Promise by Rob
- BicBic β Mazurka Op.6 No.2 by Chopin
- Sgisela β Danza de los ñÑñigos by Ernesto Lecuona
- Gooseberry β Nights in White Satin by The Moody Blues
- bSharp β Open Arms by Journey (arr. by Dan Coates)
- Greta99 β Berceuse, Op. 23 No. 1 by Mel Bonis
It's going to be a lovely recital!
I'm still working on my own submission, but I'll get it done.
I'll aim to publish the recital tomorrow morning before piano lessons!
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PianoTell Recital #3 is now live!
Please comment on the performances directly on the recital thread.
- rogerch β Flutter
- Nightowl β Frankie and Johnnie
- Peyton β A Dream of Far Away (part two)
- Animisha β To a Wild Rose
- keff β Summertime
- iternabe β MalagueΓ±a
- Sophia & rsl12 β Just a "Good Old Tune"
- rach3master β Call of Silence: Attack on Titan OST
- plop_symphony β A Hermit Crab Surfing
- Player1 β Legend of Madrid
- MarieJ β I Giorni
- hebele β Minuet in G
- Pathbreaker β Op. 116 No. 6, Intermezzo in E major
- Calavera β Antipyretic
- WieWaldi β Frisco Blues
- Sam β "An Important Event" from the Scenes from Childhood
- SalmonJack β Just Mist
- Rob β Pembrokeshire Promise
- BicBic β Mazurka Op.6 No.2
- Sgisela β Danza de los ñÑñigos
- Gooseberry β Nights in White Satin
- bSharp β Open Arms
- Greta99 β Berceuse, Op. 23 No. 1
- ShiroKuro β Wind
- navindra β Over The Rainbow
Meta feedback on the recitals can be shared here if desired.
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Beach L168, Wish, baCh, WOW Petrof, Fake Steinway, VS
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I was messaging with @ShiroKuro and I said, aside from not having anything ready to share right now, that I don't want to be the person who posts a video and then doesn't take the time to listen and comment to everyone else. She said (hope you don't mind me quoting you, SK): "as I recall, this was discussed at PW many years ago, and at the time the consensus was, it's better to submit even if you can't listen/comment on everyone."
Any thoughts? @navindra I would especially like to hear what you think since you're doing the bulk of the work to manage the recitals! And, whether I join or not, I love that the recitals exist and I think it's a wonderful thing
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twocats Another person who might comment on this is @Sam btw, since I'm sure he was part of those conversations at PW.
Obviously PT doesn't have to take the same approach at PW, but it could be helpful to know what the considerations were. My memory is that people were ok with the idea that some recital participants wouldn't listen to all the other participants.
@Sam am I remembering wrong?
twocats I don't want to be the person who posts a video and then doesn't take the time to listen and comment to everyone else. She said (hope you don't mind me quoting you, SK): "as I recall, this was discussed at PW many years ago, and at the time the consensus was, it's better to submit even if you can't listen/comment on everyone."
I agree with SK!
Submitting a performance is a significant contribution all by itself already and I don't think anyone should feel like that obligates them any further. Sure, feedback is nice and motivating in general, but it's completely optional. Everyone can contribute by listening and commenting at their discretion.
Else, just enjoy!
For me personally, the recitals have been very motivating and it has definitely been a net positive for me to participate, listen, and learn from others as well. I definitely find huge amounts of inspiration from folks here in more ways than one.
Do what's fun, what's motivating, or what works for you. PT is here to support the community.
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As I always said at PW, there are no recital police. No one wanted the job of policing them anyway. Lots of people over the years just showed up for the recitals and never posted or commented. No one kept track of them or cared if they were not commenting. That's fine.
Part of the value of the recitals is hearing other people play and learning to listen critically. Maybe someone will hear something that you play and want to play it someday. Maybe someone will learn something by listening to your performance and making decisions about what they like and don't like. Maybe you will inspire someone! There is also the value of keeping the recitals going. If you have time to record and submit that is great, since it boosts everyone else and helps keep the recitals alive.
And the biggest value of the recitals is the discipline required to learn something, polish it, and go through the trauma of recording, knowing that someone is going to listen. That is a value you get without making any comments.
I just did my 65th quarterly recital at PW - you would think I would be a better player than I am...
Sam @twocats Just wanted to add a +1 to Samβs response.
I will add β I do listen to all the recital pieces. I try to respond, but I donβt always get to everyone. My life right now is a little crazy and thereβs a lot that feels overwhelming. I do appreciate everyone who comments, but I also more than understand that not everyone will be able to comment, and I just appreciate whatever level of participation anyone is able to bring to the table. I hope that others feel similarly about my participation.
I do enjoy hearing everyone β from beginners to semi-pros and full professionals.
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Sam And the biggest value of the recitals is the discipline required to learn something, polish it, and go through the trauma of recording, knowing that someone is going to listen. That is a value you get without making any comments.
Thank you for your insights, especially this one. Trauma is very accurate!
I am very happy with this discussion, because, even when it was clear for me at PW that no comments were required, I still felt many times that I should at least comment those who commented me.
The problem for me with commenting is that unless I see the notes and listen to several people playing that same piece, I cannot come up with any good comments - except when a piece really captures my heart. And that is not very often the case.
But just like Sgisela, I do listen to all the pieces, and I enjoy listening! So thank you all of you who submitted.
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... feeling like the pianist on the Titanic ...
Sam I pay professionals to tell me how bad I play
OMG this comment made my morning!
Itβs so true though!!
I don't want, or need, critical comments from my peers.
This was always my feeling at PW so I was happy we when implemented the thing where you state the kind of comments you want. Which weβre now doing here as well, of course.
I have a teacher who knows where Iβm at, what Iβm good at, what I struggle with. And who knows the best of my playing as well as the worse. But one time at PW someone made a comment about one of my pieces that, to me, sounded like they thought I didnβt know some detail about how to play. I did, in fact, know that thing they were telling me, but wasnβt able to do it in the recording (red dot syndrome and all that). So rather than being helpful, the comment just made me feel frustrated and bad.
I also always wanted to treat the recitals as a recital, not as a piano lesson. So if someone liked the piece, liked my playing etc., then I would love to know that. But feedback? No, thank you, thatβs what I pay my teacher for.
For those who do treat the recitals more like a piano lesson, great, I have no problem with that. So thatβs why specifying the kind of comments we each want works so well.