Josephine ut I freaked out because some sort of claustrophobia and I jumped up, so I was holding the rail of the bridge, hanging above the water. I hope nobody was filming it.
LOOL I would have filmed this if I was in the vicinity. Thx for sharing your story too he he
I'm know I'm new here but haven't seen the fangs come out here like I have in other places. I suppose it's good to have a few basic rules and someone who is capable of doin' the forum version of smackin' someone upside the head and tellin' 'em to behave / knock it off (and I suppose the power to delete a post or put someone in a time-out if necessary).
"Be nice" covers most of it. And people disagreeing civilly is fine.
So true, Bellyman. I actually love it when people disagree with me or show me where I'm wrong, because that way I learn.
What I don't like is when the message is delivered in a belligerent, know-it-all voice that's both pompous and overbearing. I'm so pleased that this doesn't happen here in this forum. In fact I don't think anyone with that type of attitude has signed up yet. I don't consider anyone superior to me, because I know that no one is beneath me. Mutual respect goes a long way!
I also agree that the forum moderators are all beyond awesome 
I also wanted to chime and say thank you to @navindra for thoughtful leadership and stepping in when necessary, and to the amazing moderator team of @BartK , @ShiroKuro and @rsl12 for everything you are doing to keep things friendly and inviting for new and old members alike!
I'm late to the discussion. Regarding downvotes--imo that's asking for trouble. People can vote down for any number of reasons, some valid, others not. At any rate, it's making negativity public. People differ as well as to how likely they are to use like or dislike buttons. I don't like 'like' buttons, so I don't use them, but it doesn't mean I don't like a particular post.
Maybe I'm not visiting enough of the subforums, but I'm not seeing contentiousness on the rise. If it does, the mods should be the ones deciding when it's progressed from brisk discussion to argument to contentiousness. A forum needs to have room for disagreement. I know I have learned a lot over the years from the back and forth of people with differing opinions/facts.
For posters whose posts I've found from long experience to not be interesting to me, I do a mental Block/Ignore and just don't read them.
navindra We can split the thread if you like and if that will work best for everyone. I can fork it off at the point where we start talking about fun keyboards and select only those posts... (in the future for any such requests, feel free to Flag a post).
This thread:
https://forum.pianotell.com/d/781-piano
has now spawned this thread:
https://forum.pianotell.com/d/892-fun-exotic-digital-keyboards
I'm often slow, but it normally wouldn't take me 7 hours between proposal and execution for a simple moderation action, even though I was out for a good part of the day. 
In this case, I actually had to do a whole lot of debugging to figure out why Move Posts wasn't working as I expected.
After some investigation and debugging, I created and submitted a code fix.
Just so that you all know how hard you're making me work here @Sophia and @SouthPark.
Let's all play nice now, please.
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navindra Thanks navindra. As usual, it's the ones that probably make it look like I started it, but was in fact not. For example, it clearly wasn't me that did any insulting when I returned. In fact, before I was 'banned', you can clearly see that it were others that threw in the 'starters', such as is a curate's egg a real egg? Granted I should have ignored what was obvious ... to draw a negative reaction from me to secure a few flags. But you can clearly see the reason for my response.
So definitely shouldn't be asking me to play nice when I didn't have anything to do with it.
I think the hard work in thread splitting is good though. Excellent work.
I was just about to go to the feedback section to see if anyone reported already the 'like' feature. Usually - liking our own post can't be done. I notice here that we can like our own post. But if it is intentional, then that's ok too.
SouthPark I was just about to go to feedback to see if anyone reported already the like feature. Usually the like our own post is disabled. But if it is intentional, then that's ok too.
It's configurable and I think I enabled it at some point. I can turn it off if people think it's too self-indulgent though.
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navindra It's configurable and I think I enabled it at some point. I can turn it off if people think it's too self-indulgent though.
Thanks navindra. I was only testing before. I'm not going to be liking my own posts haha. I guess no harm if liking own posts. Quite novel too hehe
I often forget to like the posts that I like. I like most posts on this forum, but most of the time I don't push the like button. I also don't have to know if my posts are liked or not, I don't really enjoy that sort of features, so I don't get notifications about it anymore. So, I hope you all don't think I don't like your posts. I just forget to use that feature very often.
It's another feature that can show activity - or response/engagement, apart from usual posting. In general it is used in a nice way. It can be used in unsavoury ways too of course.
Josephine That's ok Josephine! That feature is totally optional. There is naturally no problem if you don't use that feature at all. Except --- hey everyone!! Josephine doesn't use that feature!!!!!!!! (kidding only haha). We know you're a good sort. Always have known.
Stub Regarding downvotes--imo that's asking for trouble. People can vote down for any number of reasons, some valid, others not. At any rate, it's making negativity public.
I fully agree with this. Downvotes - it is simply not friendly, not nice. And haven't we agreed to be nice?
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... feeling like the pianist on the Titanic ...
I agree with likes as it is not just a token but it shows that I have read and agree with the poster. Sadly missing on the old forum. Therefore people who did not feel like thay could add anything become ghosts
I didn't mean that I disagree with likes by the way.
@navindra navindra - please note the pattern of somebody or a group intentionally coming in to derail a thread, and also note the pianoworld style of a moderator that has no business to be in our thread (unless they showed some passion or interest in the thread by posting something positive - to demonstrate them worthy of our respect) - especially if he had previously contributed absolutely nothing to the discussion - walking/rocking in to close the thread. I'm not even going to write 'power tripping moderator' - as it just gives them an excuse for saying that we insulted them, and the 'play nice' cliche thing. But also note that this is the same exact guy that banned me permanently from pianoworld and making up absolute lies about me - about trolling, when in fact it is EXACTLY the same as what is happening here. People with different opinions flagging and ganging up when they have opinions different to another person. In the link below - it is the pattern of someone or some people deliberately going off-topic in order to then allow that moderator (who also wants the thread locked) to do their 'deed'.
I was 'hoping' that this would not be happening on Piano Tell, as compared with pianoworld.
Also - bartk - you really shouldn't be allowed to use that same and very old tactic here of - 'going nowhere - thread closed'. You didn't even contribute in that thread. Instead of doing what you did - you had the chance of contributing positively - but you did not, and I know the reason.
https://forum.pianotell.com/d/781-piano/131
I'm also - like Quitter - going to be true to my words as well. I certainly intended to contribute and share/demonstrate my absolute love of piano and piano-playing and music here. But, because I see inappropriate moderation/behaviour going on here in this forum, and there is negativity between two mods and myself stemming from pianoworld, I'm going to be on reddit instead.
On reddit, pleasantly surprising that just a few words to help someone in the area of piano can be so nice an experience there.
I do wish you well too navindra - because at the moment, I don't believe that you are like 'them' (ie. bartk and gombessa).
https://forum.pianotell.com/d/781-piano/30
Best regards to you navindra (and the ones that are/were nice to me here) - SouthPark - North Queensland. Australia.
@Pallas Thanks Pallas. The reason why that particular post (my previous one) is in this thread is to make it known to at least some members which mods I know are 'behind' things. I have a feeling that navindra is most likely not like 'them'. That's my feeling. But that's ok.
Pallas This is nothing like Piano World.
It is indeed much much better. But I can see patterns ... in a couple of areas. The same patterns going on. Negative patterns. It has been identified.
And importantly - I really believe that navindra is trying to make a good difference. I want navindra to know a few things that I know. And for other members - if I don't say something - then they won't know selected key details for improving the forum - culture/moderation etc. One person knowing is not enough. We need more people understanding.
Hopefully I did make some positive contributions here. Best regards Pallas. You are a good sort, and that is what counts.
SouthPark from my understanding the mods all talk behind the scenes to reach a decision on how to handle situations and this is not discussed with the public because it's not up for debate. But thought goes into the process. In this case it may seem to you that it's personal but Bart may just be the messenger for a joint decision.
I think it would really help if you can treat it as a mod decision made to keep the community peaceful rather than anything personal. A lot of times, closing off a conversation when it's starting to get ugly is more effective than waiting until it's much worse.
It's a fresh start here and rehashing your old wounds will only keep you stuck in a negative loop. Hopefully you can take this to heart; I think you would really have a much more enjoyable time here if you can treat it as a new start.
