OT: They named a restaurant after me!

ShiroKuro · 2025-10-09T14:49:07+00:00

Shirokuro | NYC https://shirokuronyc.com/ Some of you might know that ShiroKuro means "white and black" in Japanese (we don't say "black and white" in Japan...

twocats

ShiroKuro super cool!

WieWaldi

shiro = white
kuro = black?
Or is there the word "and" somehow contained?

Sophia

WieWaldi Or is there the word "and" somehow contained?

Japanese is probably one of those efficient languages... if two words are put together, the word "and" is implied 😃

Shiro, congrats on getting a restaurant named after you! I'd much prefer that over having a robot named after me 🤣

ShiroKuro

WieWaldi shiro = white
kuro = black?

Exactly!! (no
"and" needed)

Sophia I'd much prefer that over having a robot named after me

Yikes!!

rsl12

Sophia Japanese is probably one of those efficient languages.

Lolol

TheBoringPianist

Sophia Japanese is probably one of those efficient languages

I think it's more that it's such an inefficient language that native speakers in particular end up omitting all sorts of syllables/words (that one chart with Japanese being one of the fastest spoken languages yet below average information density per unit time always comes to mind), much to the consternation of foreign students of the language. It's probably why they also have so many mashup words.

The restaurant looks pretty fun! One might even say it's very... インスタ映え。

WieWaldi

Sophia Japanese is probably one of those efficient languages...

Muhahaha - this is Japanese counting to 10:

Ichi (ee-chee)
Ni (nee)
San (sahn)
Shi (shee)
Go (go)
Rok (rook)
Shichi (shee-chee)
Hachi (ha-chee)
Kyū (kyoo)
Jū (joo).

3 out of 10 words require more than one syllable. This isn't effective. In English, only the seven is the bad outlier. In German you can count up to 12 and the only outlier is 7 (Sieben). Honestly, I don't understand who came up with the idea to name a number from 1 to 12 with more than 2 syllables. Same for the spoken alphabet: (Dou-ble-you)
If you want to learn an effective language, go Bavarian and don't look further:

Oans
Zwoa
Drei
Vier
Fünf
Sechs
Siem
Acht
Ney
Zehn
Elf
Zwölf

You see, every word is only one single syllable, giving you a distinctive advantage if you count the beat up to 8. I know, musicians usually don't do this, but dancers do. Furthermore, Bavarian is very effective when it comes to formulate complex questions like: "Excuse me, Madam, how may I help you?" into something effective like "Häh?" or "Wos?".

tl;dr:
🔷🔷🔷🔷🔷🔷🔷🔷🔷🔷🔷🔷🔷
🔷🔷🔷🔷 Bavarian rul'z 😝 🔷🔷🔷🔷
🔷🔷🔷🔷🔷🔷🔷🔷🔷🔷🔷🔷🔷

WieWaldi

Sophia having a robot named after me 🤣

That explains your inhuman 🚀learning speed.

twocats

WieWaldi If you want to learn an effective language, go Bavarian and don't look further

Or... Mandarin? 🙂

I learned all my multiplication tables in Mandarin because they roll off the tongue so easily! It's a reflexive memory to say the times tables out loud. I can't do them in English.

Also I had no idea that Bavarian is its own language!

Josephine

WieWaldi

Sounds a bit like a mixture of Fries and Gronings from the Netherlands.

Josephine

WieWaldi

Oh no, I'm wrong.😅 Gronings is the least effective I'm afraid. I just looked it up. aine, twije, drije, vare, vieve, zèzze, zeuven, aachte, negen, tiene.

rsl12

WieWaldi If you want to learn an effective language, go Bavarian and don't look further:

I see room for improvement: Ans, Zwa, Dry, Vir, Fün, Sex, Sim, Akt, Ne, Zen

WieWaldi

twocats Also I had no idea that Bavarian is its own language!

Joking aside: it as a German dialect. Still, 7 is "Siem" in Bavarian vs. "Sie-ben" in Germany. Looks like we Bavarians came up with some optimizations. 😇

WieWaldi

twocats Or... Mandarin? 🙂

I learned all my multiplication tables in Mandarin because they roll off the tongue so easily!

In which language do you count a beat?

I usually count in Bavarian (in my head). Sometimes in English, but replace "se-ven" by "sev". And I often count up to 8; meaning I am counting the 8_th notes inside a bar. This allows me getting rid of the "and". I use the "and" only in cases when I need to count 16_th notes. Prefer mine over the more established ones any day:

Typical established one:
"One - te - and - te - Two - te - and - te - Three - te - and - te - Four - te - and - te"
vs mine:
"One - and - Two - and - Three - and - Four - and - Five - and - Six - and - Sev - and"

twocats

WieWaldi In which language do you count a beat?

English, but I learned music in English, so it feels weird to think about it in any other language. My dad made me learn the multiplication tables before they were required at school, and they were memorized in Mandarin.

One time at my friend's house they were giving their dog orders in Mandarin and I was like "your dog understands Chinese!" 😂

WieWaldi

twocats Don't worry. I'm intimidated as well, if a pet learned a foreign language that I don't speak.

Sophia

I'm ashamed to admit that our cats are strictly monolingual. I always heard that it's best to teach 'm your mother tongue right from the start, but in practice, that just didn't happen.
There is an advantage though of being the only one with a foreign language: when I'm angry with a particular somebody, I can stomp all over the house saying whatever I want, and no one knows what I'm saying. It saves a lot of patching up later 😎

Josephine

ShiroKuro

What a creative idea that the whole restaurant looks like a drawing!

pianocat

I went to a restaurant like that when I was in Japan. Had a delicious concoction called a "croffle", which is indeed a waffle made out of a croissant.

Sophia

ShiroKuro well at least I didn’t say she was modeled after me 😆😅🥹

ShiroKuro

Sophia well at least I didn’t say she was modeled after me

🤣🤣
No most definitely not!