Faber All-in-One Piano Course Book 1

bassclef · 2024-08-06T01:00:53+00:00

I didn't find a discussion on the Faber Adult series here so I thought I'd create one. Is anyone else using Faber or Alfred king in these parts? If there is...

Sophia

Congrats! Post videos, if you feel comfortable with that. We all love to cheer each other on in our efforts and marvel at the progress made. Whether you can feature Kittens on the keys or not 😁

bassclef

Sophia
I'm very shy. lol

One day I may do it though. Probably something later in the book. The feedback might be good. Meanwhile, I'm really enjoying Faber. Very happy with my choice. The sight reading book is great reenforcement.

Player1

bassclef

Many here were shy originally.

Now those same people post videos of them playing the Hokey Pokey.

Nightowl

Player1 Many here were shy originally.
Now those same people post videos of them playing the Hokey Pokey.

Other tunes are available. 😉

@bassclef It sounds like you're making good progress and enjoying the journey - all good. 🙂

Sophia

Ouch 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Guilty as charged!

Player1

Sophia

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Player1

Nightowl

I believe I remember Bic Bic saying she'd never ever play in public. Yet there's this video...

And it wasn't the Hokey Pokey. Maybe there was some hanky panky. since the piano "disappeared" soon after, but not the Hokey Pokey.

Sophia

Player1 Lol! If I could play like @BicBic, I assure you that HP would no longer be mentioned 😂

BicBic

Player1 - ha. not so much i would 'never' play in public - more like I very very rarely have an opportunity and so it massively freaks me out. In fact - since the terror of that public piano playing a few weeks back that I (eventually) shared the video of, I more recently came across another opportunity! There was a little piano (like - fewer octaves?!) in the 'house' part of a children's museum I was in and my family all shouted PLAAAAAAY SOMETHINGGGGG - so I did! I played the piece that I submitted for the recital here. I think Hokey Pokey would have gone down much better with the young children at the museum than Shostakovich - so @Sophia I think you would have done a better job than me! 😃

bassclef

Note to self: practice makes permanent (SLOW down).

bassclef

Player1 The Faber stuff is interesting in the beginning because it's all new. It gets just as terribly boring as the Alfred's stuff in short order. I'm on Faber's Adult Book 3B and trust me, it's just awful.

The problem is that the book doesn't give you a break from theory or practice. There's nothing in there for "fun" so everything is geared toward you learning instead of just playing.

So, some advise from a Faber student: Find material outside the lesson book and learn it. I'd recommend NOT using the companion books because they're just as horrible as the lesson book.

I ordered a couple of song books to provide some additional material that, although still beginner level, will give me complete pieces to work on. I specifically did not get the Faber song books. One is 42 Famous Classics Arranged for Easy Piano, by Allan Small. It has some good reviews.

I'm still enjoying Faber though, currently at page 79, Simple Gifts. I pulled out my Alfred books and reviewed them, I still think Faber is far ahead with some of its selections. One thing that I disliked about Alfred were the arrangements with those honking G7 and D7 chords that found their way into so many of the early tunes.

AutumnDay

bassclef One thing that I disliked about Alfred were the arrangements with those honking G7 and D7 chords that found their way into so many of the early tunes.

😂 Same! They were dissonant, awkward honks, and sounded misplaced to me. After tolerating them for what I considered long enough, I started saying "honk honk" while playing those staccato notes. Switched it up to sharpening the Fs to give it the authentic honk it so clearly aspired to. I'm sure this is frowned upon in some circles, but finally resorted to just X-ing them off the score. That was the ticket. Overall Alfred's was okay; preferred Faber I think.

Player1

BicBic

You "very rarely" having an opportunity to play on a public piano is more than I get. There's no piano at the grocery store and that's about the only place in town that I go anymore. Occasionally I will go out to breakfast at this little breakfast cafe, but, alas, no piano there either.

The funny bit about my playing is that yesterday I had 80 views on my recital piece with 30 being "original" views. As of this am, I had 177 views with 54 "original" views. I gained almost 100 views overnight but with only 24 new views. That's a lot of people who like my cat's vocal accompaniment enough they'll watch my submission more than once.

Maybe I should pack my digital piano and an AC/DC power converter and go play in a park somewhere.

Sophia

I am not familiar with Faber, but I think that most method books are absolutely horrible in the early stages of learning and fully capable of slaughtering good music 😄

The only exception, afaik, are the John Thompson primer and the grade books. Before I went with Alfred, I went through JT grade one and I absolutely adored every single piece. The only reason why I went with Alfred was because for self study, JT moves very fast indeed plus there are no explanations. It assumes that a teacher will guide the student through the book.

I'm just about done with Alfred book 2. One more to go through and then I might continue where I left off with Thompson, just because I enjoyed those books so much.

Whoops, cross posted with you @BicBic! Congratulations on getting another public performance in, it must have been fun. Children can be a great audience. At any level 😁

AutumnDay

Sophia The only exception, afaik, are the John Thompson primer and the grade books. Before I went with Alfred, I went through JT grade one and I absolutely adored every single piece. The only reason why I went with Alfred was because for self study, JT moves very fast indeed plus there are no explanations. It assumes that a teacher will guide the student through the book.

I did the reverse- starting with Alfred's/Faber, then going to the grade books. I'm just starting the first in the series, but definitely supplementing a lot from the other books he recommends, and also getting technique examples from videos. I love this approach and am glad to have started over. I wasn't following Alfred or Faber on some pretty basic stuff which I am now grasping for the first time. While I think both Alfred's and Faber are great, the way I learn is much more in tune with JT, if that makes sense,.

bassclef

AutumnDay Same! They were dissonant, awkward honks, and sounded misplaced to me.

I was wondering if it was just me. I've only come across one measure in the Faber book that had a similar dissonant sound that seemed out of place to my ear. I just played the root note instead of the chord as written.

Sophia

Yes, I love JT's approach as well. I honestly don't think you can go wrong with either of the three methods, so I would indeed encourage anyone to start with the one they jive with (or if they have a teacher, to go along with them) 🙂

Animisha

Sophia I honestly don't think you can go wrong with either of the three methods

Actually, I went very wrong with Alfred's, because there was so little written about technique. Alfred's without a teacher, and no YT videos either (because I had no clue they even existed), can make you develop very bad technique.

Nightowl

bassclef I also ordered the Faber sight reading books 1 and 2 which should arrive tomorrow. I think they may help reenforce and speed up my recognition of the notes. Although I read the bass clef well from playing bass, adding the treble clef and concentrating on it has not only introduced occasional hesitation on the treble clef, but bass as well occasionally.

How are you getting on with these books - are they useful to help with sight reading? Also, are the pieces quite enjoyable or is it just a case of tolerating them as exercises to improve your sight reading? They say that playing a variety of easy pieces is good for sight reading and I'm considering buying some books like the ones you mentioned.

bassclef

Nightowl How are you getting on with these books - are they useful to help with sight reading? Also, are the pieces quite enjoyable or is it just a case of tolerating them as exercises to improve your sight reading? They say that playing a variety of easy pieces is good for sight reading and I'm considering buying some books like the ones you mentioned.

I only got to page 12 of the first sightreading book and then put it down for the time being. That portion covered all treble clef notes that had been covered in the method book to the point I was at. I'll pick it back up after I get accustomed to the additional notes on that staff.

Early sightreading material is pretty dry. But in small doses each day is fine. I absolutely agree that playing a large variety of level appropriate material is beneficial. So along with the method and sightreading, I'm also playing out of the 42 Famous Classics (easy) book that I bought.

It's getting slower for me to progress in the Faber method now at roughly half way, so I'm jumping around between books and songs, working on a couple songs from each at any given time.

Sophia

Indeed, the reverse is true too... I don't think any method is right when the student is not doing it right or "getting it" 😄 (for whatever reason)

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