WieWaldi So, from what you're saying, the sound quality is actually better/deeper on the older model that Sophia has chosen, so Sophia should be pleased about that. It is difficult choosing an instrument when there are so many options these days, but in a way there are no bad choices, just different options to suit different needs. It's amazing to think that the instrument Sophia ordered has the ability to sound like a band of people playing together - technology is like magic these days. 🙂

"Don't let's ask for the moon, we have the stars." (Final line from Now,Voyager, 1942)

      Yes, I'm very pleased with my choice. For a split second I got all worried again, because I saw an open box model for about $100 at the same store - and their open box products are always excellent. Turned out that is the e273 - and that model doesn't have touch sensitive keys. Ever since I heard that sound demonstration I am convinced that touch sensitive is a MUST, because how else can you get those characteristic sax and guitar sound effects... you know what I mean, "da da deee, PWOOOAAAAAAH da da dee" - sexyphones indeed!🤣

      Someone mentioned that having a fixed-volume keyboard is like listening to an actor bellow his lines in a monotonous voice - sure he gets the words across, but you zone out after seconds. So all in all I'm really glad I waited this long without rushing into something I'd probably never even use. It's scheduled to arrive on Tuesday and I'm oddly excited 🤩

      WieWaldi But the drop off from e373 the e383 start to hurt my ears.

      Thanks! I didn't watch the entire video since I already made the choice, but I agree 100% with him (and you). The 373 sounds a lot less tinny - and I like how the speakers are positioned too.

          Nightowl indeed - I can't wait to see how she is living up in her creativity

          Sophia "da da deee, PWOOOAAAAAAH da da dee"

          I see already this thing sitting on top of your piano, doing some licks with Sax voice, because that sounds amazing 🎶🎷!! Looks like this can really be used as an addon keyboard. I was only thinking about a lightweight and portable take-with-you option.

                WieWaldi The Casiotone CT-S1 piano sounds way better than either the e373 or e383, and the keyboard has a better feel. If one was wanting rhythm accompaniment, the Casio choice in that price range is the CTX700, but the keyboard is rather noisy, from some reviews I've read.

                In the US, the e373 and e383 are, $179 and $199. If having more bass from the speakers, without messing with the EQ, is important, then the e373 is a better choice. The e383 speaker output is more of a flat response, similar to studio monitors, or monitor headphones, but can be adjusted with the onboard EQ to suit the player's taste, or lack thereof. Personally, if I were buying a keyboard of this type, I don't think I'd use the speakers very much.

                For $20 more, i think the added instruments (particularly the extra pianos) and rhythms, along with the new, easier to use, interface is worth it. The e383 also has the new "articulation" feature.

                However, both the e373 and the e383 have the known issue where the sustain pedal does not register in some DAW programs, including GarageBand, unless one makes a workaround by using the split keyboard feature, then registering the split ranges to zero on both sides, then saving the setting as a user registration. A minor drawback in either case of two nice little keyboards.

                Anyone interested in the Casio CT-S1 or Yamaha PSR E373, E383, would benefit from looking at Masataka Kono's videos playing these keyboards. He really likes the CT-S1 and plays the heck out it, showing what it is capable of. If not for the rhythms, I'd probably get the CT-S1.

                    PianoMonk If not for the rhythms, I'd probably get the CT-S1.

                    Nice! Funny enough that one too is around the $300 pricemark here in Canada, same as the e383. I am starting to believe that it was a lucky bargain indeed, getting the e373 below $200 (around USD $145)

                    WieWaldi I was only thinking about a lightweight and portable take-with-you option.

                    Yes, that was my first thought as well. But I always had in the back of my mind that I'd like something with some bells and whistles to complement the actual piano. It turns out it was an easy trade, a little less portability but suddenly endless possibilities 😃

                          Sophia Yes. A great deal, indeed. Be sure to show us what you, and the cats, get up to with it.

                            Sophia May I ask, how much you paid for the orange Kitty keyboard?

                              I bought it here and that's what I paid too. But I just had to have it like some people want a ship in a bottle or a snow globe 😊

                              PianoMonk If one was wanting rhythm accompaniment, the Casio choice in that price range is the CTX700, but the keyboard is rather noisy, from some reviews I've read.

                              I didn't even know a CTX700 exists, actually I didn't know the CTX line exists. Seems like Casio is blurring the lines with the CT400 or CT500 models. From what I can tell as difference at a first glance, the CTX700 has a bigger housing (similar Yammi E373) with more buttons than the others.

                              I am happy I didn't know all the alternatives, when I bought CT-S1. I just read in PianoWorld the CT-S1 has the most piano-like action-feel amongst the cheapo lightweights like the Go:Piano and similar priced Casios. I liked the small form factor and the look of the nice fabric over the speaker section. Now I use it when I am at my parents place. It is not a piano like my CN29, but still good eough to learn Blues licks and to program my musclememory. Considering the price and portability I am quite happy with it.
                              If I had also considered the Yamaha alternatives, I would not have bought one until today, but would still linger around in internet forums, reading reviews and watch comparison videos. 🤓

                                  Meowsic: $45 / 24 keys = 1,87 $/key 😸
                                  Yamaha: $145 / 61 keys = 2,38 $/key 🎹🎹🎹
                                  Guess this premium price tag can be justified with fullsize keys, and they all are full length

                                  WieWaldi If I had also considered the Yamaha alternatives, I would not have bought one until today, but would still linger around in internet forums, reading reviews and watch comparison videos. 🤓

                                  Oh my goodness yes. I have been searching for a keyboard since June. I would have purchased the Casio that Navindra showcased, but it was ridiculously expensive at the time. Basically what I paid for the e373.

                                  The kitty keyboard is about as usable as our real kitties on the keys 🤣

                                  It took all this time to decide on the keyboard, but I'm really happy with the one I picked at last. I'm not watching any more comparison videos because this choice is final 🤗

                                  Edit: thank you for putting the meowsic price in its proper perspective 😆😆😆

                                    Ok......... now I simply must have.... noooooooooo! You guys have to stop posting adorable keyboards like that 😃

                                    Proud new mommy owner of a piano, a kittyboard and keyboard... and showing off the music room/library 😁

                                      Sophia Pay attention! Looks like Sylvester keyboard is about to catch Tweety stool.

                                      Very nice room, btw. You have a lot of angles for filming!

                                        LOL good catch on the birdie and kitty! As for the filming, that is going to be an entirely different ballgame. I only have two cellphones and a desktop computer (nowhere near the music room), so I will need to figure out how to use those to make multitrack recordings... while still having a clicker track or whatever available. But that's for later, right now I'm still at the "whoa, another button, now what does THAT do?" stage of my new keyboard 🤣

                                        Have fun with it! I see you already using it as a drum computer metronome!
                                        Or work with the 🎷 sound!

                                        Can you place the Yammi on top of your Yammi?
                                        I don't get the concept with the music rest that is a floor lower than the top plate.

                                        I'm not entirely sure what you guys mean. Are you talking about the music stand? In that case, it's exactly as Pallas said. The Clavinova had the stand at a more conventional height, so there is no way to see my hands without glancing down.

                                        The new keyboard has the stand indeed flush with the keys. I haven't used sheet music with it just yet because I'm still at the button push stage, but I think a little lower will prove to be convenient ☺️

                                        Side note: the touch is so different! Almost as if each key has elastic in them. Quite the opposite from weighted keys, but charming in its own way.

                                          Pallas I think it puts the music closer to your hands, which makes sense to me, especially if you want to use peripheral vision for boogie woogie left hand jumps.

                                          Yes, this is something I always thought that cheapo digitals with small cabinets have as advantage over the expensive and big ones. Until now this was just a theory in my mind, glad you confirmed it.
                                          The special thing about Sophias Clavinova is the empty space between the top plate and the one holding the music rest. I don't think in this slot (5 cm?) is something that is necessary to run the piano. I think there are no mechanic parts, nor or any electronic. I just wonder why the top plate is existing at all?

                                          Sophia I'm not entirely sure what you guys mean. Are you talking about the music stand?

                                          Acually I wondered, how (or if) you can fold away the music rest, to make the top entirely flat. So flat, that you can place the e374 on top of it. I mean, your piano offers a big wide slot between the topmost plate and the one of the music rest. And I guess, the music rest can vanish in this slot. I just don't get, how it can vanish, without using a screwdriver.
                                          On mine I can fold the music away, but then I don't get a really flat top. The music rest is still there, like a wooden plank on top. If I would like to use a keyboard on top of the piano, I would have to use something like a book on each side of the folded music rest. Otherwise, the keyboard would wobble around.