Aren't we all learners?

Rubens · 2024-06-02T03:13:37+00:00

In the spirit on inclusivity, it was great to see the ABF renamed to the Learners Lounge. But how about taking it one step further and fusing it with the Pia...

ShiroKuro

I don’t have a strong opinion (feel like I’ve used this phrase a lot here lately… 😅

But I do like the LL and the PZ being separate, for all of the reasons mentioned in this thread. Too other reasons: experienced players and long term members will feel comfortable posting in either forum, but newer members and very new beginners might feel intimidated posting in a combined forum. So I think it’s a good idea to be a little more accommodating to those types of posters.

Which brings me to the other question. If we combined LL and PZ, what would we call it? If we called it LL, experienced players might be disinclined to post, but if we called it PZ, learners and beginners might feel intimidated. So imo I think having these two is the perfect combination.

Ok, I changed my mind. I do have a strong opinion. 😁

And this site is so easy to navigate, I feel like having a few more sub forums is not a drawback — a feature, not a bug.

ETA plus I like the duos: acoustic piano forum and digital piano forum, learners lounge and pianist zone. Nice parallel structure!

Rubens

Ok, discussion closed then! We are all learners but we need separate forums.

bSharp

I prefer the All Discussions view to easily find the threads I'm interested in. I don't pay much attention to the tags assigned to the threads. If I come across a thread I don't think I'll ever contribute to, I add it to my ignore list—not because it's a bad thread, but simply because it doesn't apply to me

HeartKeys

bSharp
+1 here. at that point I seldomly think about the semantics and which forum it’s posted, I merely have birds eye view of everything. I really like that feature, so I don’t inadvertently miss out on any would-be valuable readings.

Pallas

Sophia This is a new forum and I think it will take some time to get into that mindset, but that would be my ideal world. Learners of all levels and pianists of all levels, no class distinction.

Or maybe that's not what will happen at all, and I'm just a hopelessly optimistic idealist 😁

I am also a hopelessly optimistic idealist. I figure not all of my dreams will come true, but you know what? You get zero of what you don't ask for. So I have been asking - and I'm going to continue to ask, without demanding anything, for as much mingling as possible - while respecting and accepting that some might not want to. No is an acceptable answer, but I'm going to take my shot, because life is short, and piano is beautiful.

MRC

I think the new name for the ABF is excellent. Just one thing. "Learners" in this instance is the possessive case of a plural noun, so it needs an apostrophe:

Learners' Lounge

🙂

TC3

MRC Please no. It looks terrible. 😃 It's pretty common to leave apostrophes out of place names, headlines, etc., for aesthetics.

Sophia

iternabe I would not call myself a pianist, after less than 6 months of self learning. TBH I don’t even know when I would in the future.

See, that's a mindset that I don't think it's needed 🤭 I mean when is a person a pianist? After they have performed at Carnegie Hall? With that definition, no one in this forum is a pianist. I personally think that as soon as a person is capable of participating in the recitals, they play the piano. Which means they have graduated to pianist 😄

But seriously though, I'm very happy with the two sections. I think it will help this forum to develop a slightly different culture as to who should post where than an older, established forum. In the end though these things tend to sort themselves one way or another so it's all good really 🙂

HeartKeys

Sophia I mean when is a person a pianist

Ask ten people and you’ll likely get ten different answers! 🙂

Rubens

Should we change the PZ name to the Players' Zone, or Players' Lounge? Sounds a bit sleazy to me🤣.

Oh, actually, Piano Street has a "Performance" forum. Are we all performers? (Regardless of the level of performance?)

Sophia

Haha true, all of it 😁 I guess my suggestion would be to leave things as they are, though I still have one wish open (shameless repeat): to move Pianist Zone to the top, Learners Lounge underneath and then the rest of the forum sections.

But if that doesn't happen, that's perfectly all right too 😄

twocats

TC3 Please no. It looks terrible. 😃 It's pretty common to leave apostrophes out of place names, headlines, etc., for aesthetics.

I agree and I also appreciate @MRC for pedantic grammar. I hope I can have it both ways? 😆

Rubens

This place would be too good to be true if we didn't have a pedantic post from time to time😁.

Pallas

Rubens I almost made a responding pedantic post, but the bases were covered, so I got some critical self control practice. WIN

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