I have another question for you blues gurus: in the sheet music of lesson 5, the turnaround is shown AFTER the 12 bars (so it ends with C7 C7 and then it shows the sequence). I'm a little confused - should it be played instead of bar 11 and 12, or after?

    Sophia Hmm, I see that too. I'll have to go back to the video and see if Christian said anything about it. Otherwise it could be he meant to show a couple of different endings and didn't notate it clearly.


    Enthusiastic but mediocre amateur.

    Thanks! I watched the video too but he isn't very clear on it... he seems to enjoy teaching in smaller segments. I would imagine that at some point he'll put the whole thing together for us 😃

      Sophia OK, I think bars 11 & 12 are just a transcript of what he plays at 10:20 ff. There should probably be an end repeat after that on the sheet music. I think the bars that look like measures 13 & 14 are just meant to be a separate thing, a new turnaround you could use over bars 11 & 12. Does that make sense?


      Enthusiastic but mediocre amateur.

        Ok, I'll bite. I don't have the sheet music, but a 12 bar blues is a 12 bar blues. A turnaround is a way to keep the song going, like reintroducing the tune, usually so another player can solo. Anyway, on a 12 bar blues, using this for an example, C7 C7 C7 C7 F7 F7 C7 C7 G7 F7 C7 C7, a standard turnaround would take the place of the last bar of C7. So, still a 12 bar blues. Sometimes, the last 2 bars act as a turnaround, with maybe something like a chord change every 2 beats - C7 Am7 Dm7 G7, then back to the beginning. Or, you might have: C7 Eb7 Ab7 G7. Or, C7 Eb7 Dm7 Db7, then back to the beginning. There are lots of ways to make your way back to the head (that's jazz-speak for the start ;-), or to break up the progression, keep it going, or to offer a path to more tonal variety, which you hear in lots of jazz type blues tunes. Hope this helps.

          Sophia Sorry - I didn't buy his 1st patch of sheet music. From lesson 4-7 I made them up by my own (but bought the consecutive ones, because I was too lazy after this).

          Let me share it for you: (Don't get confused by 12/4 time signature, the swing is baked in)

          Sophia should it be played instead of bar 11 and 12, or after?

          Instead of bar 11 and 12 - exactly as in my sheet music. The page is one complete 12-bar sequence.

          btw: you are really fast in learning this! chapeau 😏

          PianoMonk Hope this helps.

          Always, thank you! You too, WieWaldi. This is what his sheet music shows:

          It starts with bar 10, 11 and 12 (the rest is on the previous page):

          And after that it shows the turn around.

          TC3 I think the bars that look like measures 13 & 14 are just meant to be a separate thing, a new turnaround you could use over bars 11 & 12. Does that make sense?

          Yes, I think he just forgot the double bar just before that 🙂

            Sophia Your sheet music starts with bar 8. (9+10 on same line.)
            bar 11+12 (bottom line) is the turnaround.
            Edit - this is wrong

            • TC3 replied to this.

              WieWaldi
              No, you just can't see the previous bars. I have the full thing, what she's showing is bars 10, 11, and 12 at the top. Again, it's a "typo," Christian should have put a repeat sign at the end of the first line.


              Enthusiastic but mediocre amateur.

                Forget what I said in the last post. Doesn't make any sense now.
                I am confused with his sheet music. Let's call his version:

                • top line = bar 8 + 9 + 10
                • bottom line = bar 11 + 12

                Then bar 9+10 are C7 (makes no sense as 9+10 are normally G7+F7)
                And bar 8 is F7, but played lower than C7. (in his tutorial, C7 is the lowest chord, while F/G7 are a few key higher).

                Nah - do yourself a favor and stick to my version. It works and it sounds, believe me.
                Another thing - you will find in my sheet music more notes than in his one. I didn't invent them. Just looked at his fingers.

                TC3 May be. I must admit, his videos are better than his sheet music is. Nevertheless, I will continue to buy them as they are still helpful, and I want to contribute some money to him.

                • TC3 likes this.

                Haha yeah I guess we'll just go by what @PianoMonk said - in words even I can understand. A 12 bar blues is a 12 bar blues. Not 14. Can't argue that 😃

                  Btw: my sheet music is exactly what you hear from 2:00 to 2:36 in this old video:

                  Sophia Just wait until you discover 8-bar blues, 16-bar blues, and even 13&1/2-bar blues. (Not I'm not joking!)


                  Enthusiastic but mediocre amateur.

                    Just when I thought I was close to a pro beginner, you reduced me to bloody beginner again. Not fair!

                      Sophia "Reduced to a bloody beginner OVER AND OVER again" sounds like the perfect description of progress to me! 😃


                      Enthusiastic but mediocre amateur.

                      TC3 Just wait until you discover 8-bar blues, 16-bar blues, and even 13&1/2-bar blues. (Not I'm not joking!)

                      8-bar blues: video 7

                      Curious abut 16-bar and 131/2 bar

                      • TC3 replied to this.
                      • TC3 likes this.

                        WieWaldi

                        13&1/2 isn't as weird as it sounds. If you think of the 12-bar blues as three groups of 4 measures, it's just adding two beats to each of those three. For example, a song might treat each of those groups of 4 as two bars singing and two bars of instrumental response, but add add two beats to the vocal line of the first two bars.

                        For an example of 16-bar blues, Herbie Hancock's "Watermelon Man" comes to mind (though that's on the jazzier side).


                        Enthusiastic but mediocre amateur.

                        TC3 Btw, Theophilus, in my video starting 2:36 you told me to stay staccato with left hand (1 year ago in the other forum). You are right. But it cost me a lot of time to get this into my hands. LH: staccato, RH: legato. And then the other way around. It drives me crazy. This is why I stuck in the 1st easy blues lesson right now. The only thing helping me out is a metronome 🛎️ 🥁🥁🥁, forcing me to keep slow tempo.

                        • TC3 replied to this.
                        • TC3 likes this.