ShiroKuro If money and tech were no object (tho they both are) I would love to have a bi-fold digital score reader so I could see two pages at once.

I actually looked into this, but it costs too much and also then you have to charge two devices and it just seems like a lot of hassle.

There are rumors of a 16" iPad in a couple of years though! Depending on the height in landscape mode it could be a possible option!

    twocats but it costs too much

    Yep. 🙁

    twocats There are rumors of a 16" iPad in a couple of years though! Depending on the height in landscape mode it could be a possible option!

    Oooh, that could be promising!

    Mobilesheets has face gestures (though I've never used them) and works on Ipads.

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    BartK If I have Henle books do I have to buy the scores again digitally?

    What I do with my books is I use a scanning app on my phone or tablet to take a picture of the sheet music and then convert it into a pdf. Forscore and Newzik both have a scanner built in as well… not sure about MobileSheets. But I find the dedicated scanner apps give me better results with not much more work. Anyways, I don’t scan the whole book, just any pieces I’m going to work on. But over time, the library builds up!

      Sgisela Forscore and Newzik both have a scanner built in as well

      Wow, did not know this! I'm sure the result is better than if I took a photo, which is what my friend did to digitize a score.

        twocats I’m not sure how it works in Forscore, but in Newzik, when you want to add a new piece, you get 3 options: import a file, scan a piece, or use a template. So it’s kind of built into the ‘add piece’ functionality. it’s easy enough to use, but I find the dedicated scanner apps are just a little more flexible.

          Sgisela nice! I will keep it in mind if I'm ever in the position to need to scan a score again 🙂

          With mobilesheets I take pictures with the tablet of new scores on paper, and it scales them automatically to fit the page. This is a relatively new feature. It needs good light.
          I didn't know about face gestures, I just tried it and it seems to work. Is anybody using that to play, and does it work okay?

          ShiroKuro If money and tech were no object (tho they both are) I would love to have a bi-fold digital score reader so I could see two pages at once.

          twocats I actually looked into this, but it costs too much and also then you have to charge two devices and it just seems like a lot of hassle

          In 2020, when we cancelled our summer holiday because of Covid, I used some of the money we saved to buy a second iPad. Since then I've played many concerts using both iPads with ForScore. It's no hassle and the dual page feature in ForScore is very robust: I've never had a problem in a concert.

          Here's what it looks like:

            MRC I would love that! I just can’t justify the expense, not right now any way.

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            twocats navindra I feel like lately many people are making the leap to tablets for sheet music. Maybe I should as well?

            You haven't yet?? I'm very surprised. I think you will like it! 🙂

            I can be a bit of luddite when it comes to pianos.

            Even when I was playing a digital, I went to great lengths to conceal the tech I was using to power the piano. I especially didn't want big computer screens or noisy computers around me for running the piano engine.

            Similarly, I don't get along with having an iPad on my piano... the screen shining at me is too much. Maybe an e-reader will work one day, but I just got a Scribe, and I'm already sending it back. It couldn't open several sheet music books (which work fine on my smaller BOOX device) + it would not work with a Bluetooth page turner + it was too heavy for general use.

            I'm in no rush because my teacher showed me a neat way to tape all my sheet music together and that's worked out great for me so far... I just have the whole thing opened up in front of me, I don't have to worry about page-turning, and it mostly stays in place. That probably works for me because the pieces I play aren't very long or complicated so far!

              navindra Similarly, I don't get along with having an iPad on my piano... the screen shining at me is too much. Maybe an e-reader will work one day

              I started off with a Boox Max Lumi but it was too slow to turn pages and the pen didn't work all that well. Oh, and the battery life was terrible! I was also concerned about glare with an iPad but it hasn't been a problem. I dim the screen and have it set on permanent night mode so that it has a warm look, otherwise the bright white is too harsh for me.

                twocats I dim the screen and have it set on permanent night mode so that it has a warm look, otherwise the bright white is too harsh for me.

                This is a great idea, thanks!

                I recently downsized from the 12.9" to the 11" model — for general use this was actually a relief — but I think it could still work on the piano.

                  navindra if you decide to try it out, we're all here to give you hot tips 😉

                  I think as long as the pieces are pretty simple (and you have good eyesight) the 11" could work-- at least to try it out and see how you feel!

                  iPad Pro 12.9" talk, cut for length:

                  My 2015 iPad Pro 12.9" (1st Gen) is still going strong! I started with trying it out for sheet music but the original Pencil isn't very good. After reading a bunch of reviews I ended up getting a used 2018 model (12.9" 3rd Gen) last year for sheet music because the Apple Pencil 2 was so much better, plus the charging is much easier since you just magnetically attach it to the side of the tablet. I expect it to last for many years! The battery life was a little disappointing compared to my old iPad Pro but then I realized that I've got a white screen on for hours and according to the Internet, using the Pencil (and also putting it for charge on the iPad) is a big drain on the battery. It's always enough charge to get me through a practice day but I always have it on the charger when it's not being used (Apple has internal software to keep it from degrading the battery). Anyway, the older models can be had for just a few hundred dollars if you find a deal!

                  @navindra I used to tape my scores together as well. I had a very elaborate system. I copied the scores onto 11x17 sized paper so that I could have two pages on one sheet, then I used a blank sheet of 11x17 as a backing sheet and staggered the pages. So say you had a four-page score. I would copy it onto two 11x17 sheets, then using double sided tape, tape the left side of the backing sheet to the back of page 2 and the right side of the backing sheet to the back of page 3. Pages 1 and 4 don’t have a backing sheet behind them. With this method, you can also fold the pages and it folds and opens very nicely, and having the backing sheet gives the pages a little more thickness so it sits on the music deck very nicely as well. This method can scale to any number of pages, and if you have an uneven number of pages, you can just tape the last page onto the backing page so that it still is taped together with the rest of the score (and that prevents it from sliding off the music desk).

                  However, this process (copying and prepping the whole thing) is actually rather time consuming and as my pieces got longer, it started to become a serious pain in the rear. Also, some pieces are so long that even this system requires page turns., although with this system, I could always get it down to only one or two page turns, as opposed to many page turns.

                  But still… All the pieces I’m working on right now are 5-7 pages. And then there was the time I played this piece:

                  Oltremare by Einaudi. 12 pages.

                  I now use the iPad and Bluetooth page turner pretty much exclusively.

                  😅

                    Yeah, I didn’t get it to recording level before moving on. Too dang long and it had some sections that tripped me up.

                    Maybe I should go back to it… 😅

                    @iternabe indeed! I've always thought musical scores are beautiful!

                    I like the cover artwork on some of the early 20th century parlor music scores.

                    Much like the music itself, some of it is really good, some of it is mediocre and there's a fair amount of crap.

                    But still, there's enough entertaining stuff in there to make it worthwhile digging through the university library websites to find interesting things.

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