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  • Bluetooth Pedal Review: PageFlip Firefly vs Airturn Duo 500

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I have also changed to AirTurn after several years of using PageFlip.

Another plus for the AirTurn is that you can change the setting for the power off time. For this you need the AirTurn Manager app (download it from the App Store). The default is 2 hours, but you can set it to any one of these values: 5 minutes, 15 minutes, 1 hour, 2 hours, 5 hours or Never.

twocats Cons of the Airturn:
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it doesn't always manually reconnect to the iPad after you turn it back on

Have you tried turning on AirTurn Support in the forScore settings?

      I recently bought an AirTurn Ped 500, which is a smaller and more refined piece of hardware than the Duo 500 (which looks like it has some 3D-printed parts). Also has USB-C charging which is nice.

      I'm not in love with the Ped 500 though because of the clicking mechanism. It works fine if I'm wearing slippers, but sock-footed it's hard to get the pressure at the right point to initiate a page turn. Debating on whether to return it.

        MRC Have you tried turning on AirTurn Support in the forScore settings?

        I think I did, but I'll have to look again. Also I was reading the manual and will have to make sure I'm on a "closed" vs "open" connection so that other people don't try to connect to my pedal!

          pianocat I recently bought an AirTurn Ped 500

          I just looked it up and the pedal mechanism looks very different! I think you might like the DUO more.

            I have the AirTurn Duo and it works well for me. I use it for page turns during my daily sight-reading practice. I haven’t performed or recorded with it.

            It took a long time (months!) for me to get comfortable with the AirTurn. At this point on a good day I automatically press the pedal when the last few notes of the page I’m on is in my brain. Sometimes I’m still conscious of my foot and the pedal which distracts from the music.

            For me it’s way better than turning physical pages ever was, but I was never great at physical page turns.

              rogerch At this point on a good day I automatically press the pedal when the last few notes of the page I’m on is in my brain.

              Sometimes I'm so automatic that I'm tapping the ground or touching the page on a paper score 😂

                  twocats Yes! I have done this!

                    I have a PageFlip firefly and like it a lot. In my piano group, one of the other members was having issues with her AirTurn device (I think it was too sensitive and would jump a couple pages). Not sure if it was the model, her specific device, or the settings, but I said I really liked mine. She tried mine out and liked it much better than hers. She went ahead and bought a PageFlip firefly and seems to be happy with it.

                    Anyways, just another perspective…. Mine is close to 5 years old now. It had been having a few issues recently (seemed to be less sensitive), and then it died! I put in new batteries and it’s working like new.

                    I’m honestly very happy with it, and when it does die a permanent death, I think I will just replace it with the same model.

                      Sgisela I've read of cases where people have had issues with both brands, which is not surprising. I think that both are good options. I would have happily kept using my PageFlip if I hadn't thought the Bluetooth was dying, but it turns out that I like the Airturn a little more for the reasons specific to my use preferences 🙂

                        twocats Sometimes I'm so automatic that I'm tapping the ground or touching the page on a paper score

                        I do that all the time whenever I am playing from a paper score!! I've been using a bluetooth page turner for at least 7 years, so it's become very much second nature.

                        I had an earlier version of the AirTurn Ped, and foud it to be very unresponsive, like you had to stomp on it to get the page to turn. I switched the PageFlip and used the Butterfly for about 6 years, until I replaced it last year with the Pageflip Firefly.

                        I'm pretty happy with it. I read about the AirTurn Duo and I don't remember why at this point, but decided that the PageFlip would be the better choice for me, so I never compared them. But @pianocat it sounds like the problems with the AirTurn Ped have not been resolved in this more recent version. I recommend you return it and get either a PageFlip or the AirTurn Duo.

                            ShiroKuro I switched the PageFlip and used the Butterfly for about 6 years, until I replaced it last year with the Pageflip Firefly.

                            Curious, why did you get a Firefly and not another Butterfly?

                                MRC For this you need the AirTurn Manager app (download it from the App Store)

                                Thanks for the tip! I downloaded this and was easily able to set the time-out and change the pairing to "closed" and also set it to prioritize performance over battery life.

                                MRC Have you tried turning on AirTurn Support in the forScore settings?

                                This was turned on, but I think maybe the device hadn't initially been added in AirDirect mode. I removed it from both my Bluetooth device list and forScore and then re-added it directly from forScore. Seems to be connecting right away when I power on now... fingers crossed!

                                    twocats Curious, why did you get a Firefly and not another Butterfly?

                                    I am embarrassed to say, at this point, I have no recollection!! 😅

                                    I'm pretty sure I read about the differences, maybe read some reviews.... and for whatever reason, decided on the Firefly (although my previous model was a butterfly)