@redrabbit glad this thread has been helpful! This is a pretty great forum once your piano comes, you can visit the sub-forums here, Pianist Zone and Learners Lounge
Piano placement question
I prefer option 3.
I really dislike the feeling of having my back to the room, and the way a piano sounds with its tail in a corner. My piano (5ā8ā) is set so that my bench is in the corner, and I face the room. I did find that it sounded best when the piano was at an angle. And for me, the rug made a massive difference, but I have a lot of hard surfaces in the room.
Sound matters most, but feng shui matters too. Make sure you set things up so that you like where you sit, and youāll enjoy your practice more. If you were not playing the piano, where do you enjoy sitting in the room? Put your bench there.
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cheeeeee This layout looks great. The piano will open up to the entire space and is also away from the front door.
Thank you! Yes, this placement turned out to be really, really nice! If the room had been a little bit larger, I might have concerned putting the piano at an angle, but for this room in the size that it was, I think this was the best placement that walked a line between maximizing acoustics as well as maximizing space.
We have since sold that house and moved to another state, but it was a wonderful piano space while we were there!
Late to the party here, #3.
Since no one has mentioned it, how big is the mirror? If it is any size at all, it's going to be a very hard reflective surface and may impact the sound you experience. Since you say the mirror has to stay, you might consider drapes or something of sort--open when using the room as a gym, closed when the piano is in use.
Yes the mirror is going to be a problemā¦ If I end up going with 3 I will definitely install something to cover it, because half of the wall is floor length mirror.
Iām actually considering another option besides the listed ones:
Because this one opens up to the 71ā wall(which is an opening to a different room and stairs with higher ceilings), also another room next to the mirror, it has the potential. This options takes more space, which is not ideal, but I will try it out.
redrabbit so to confirm: so where it says 71ā that is actually not a wall? But open floor to ceiling? And whatās the room over there with the high ceilings, a living room? Are the ceilings vaulted or flat?
Esp. if vaulted, you might find that the piano sounds amazing in that area. Thatās basically how my piano is set up (ok, my piano room is way smaller, but it opens to the living area with uneven walls and vaulted ceilings) my dealers told me that openness and non-parallel ceilings impact how the sound travels, and while my piano sounds great when youāre sitting at the piano itself, it sounds even better in the living roomā¦
There are so many factors to consider including the OP's personal taste both visual and in terms of sound, that I think the best approach by far is to simply test different positions of a piano. The relatively small size of the piano and wooden floor should make it very easy to test the possible positions and move the piano from one position to another in just a couple of minutes. Even if the first position sounds good, only by testing the others can the OP find the ideal position.
Animisha
Yes!! Thanks for the suggestion
I didnāt want this originally because it takes more space(need to leave room for the bench so I donāt want to tuck it too deep in the corner). But the more I think about the mirror, it makes more sense
ShiroKuro
Yes itās not a wall but an entrance to a hallway(lower ceiling) which connects with some stairs with high (maybe 12ft) but flat ceiling, and entrance of 2 other much smaller rooms (we seldom close their doors). Potentially it can lead to better sound. However, I donāt know if the sound will hit the hallway wall first and just be absorbed, then the other rooms and high ceiling may not help a lot.
pianoloverus
Yes I will try out soon as the piano is expected to arrive tomorrow, I hope I can find a solution I like both acoustically and aesthetically
redrabbit ahh, that makes sense. Yeah, youāre just going to have to experimentā¦
But personally, I would go with a placement that doesnāt have the pianoās tail poking out into the room. And the space between the straight end of the piano and the wall (in your most recent photo) will be sort of dead space as well.
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It finally arrived!
We ended up placing it in the middle of the room temporarily, which seems to look and sound the best. I also enjoy playing in the middle of the room more compared to play at the corner in the previous listed options, but itās taking sooo much spaceā¦ guess we will have to plan other furniture around it now haha.
It still feels a bit echoey even if the piano opens to the 71ā opening, and we plan to install some acoustic panels on the wall before experimenting with more placements.
Another thing--where are the heating/cooling vents for the room? It's best not to have the piano close by a heating/cooling vent--it can play havoc with the tuning. Also, what is the cord visible in the photo? Do you have a Dampp Chaser installed?
Stub
The heating is a great question!! There are two ceiling vents on the left and right side of the piano(marked in green in picture and the red circle is the pianoās position)
The cord is for the piano disc auto play system.
BTW @redrabbit is your Schimmel a new instrument or used? I wish I could come and play it! Itās been along time since Iāve played a Schimmelā¦ in fact itās been a long time since Iāve played a nice piano that wasnāt my own (I should start a thread about the pianos at the music school where I take lessonsā¦)
When I was in grad school (not in music), the university had some āpublic pianosā in various spots around campus, some nicer than others. In one of the unions, there was a beautiful Schimmel that was in the lobby for the formal hall (sometimes it was moved into the hall). Anyway, this piano had recently been donated and was relatively new and in very good condition. I want to say it was whatever model of Schimmel is close to 7ā, but I was less familiar with grand sizes back then and maybe Iām remembering wrong.
Anyway, sometimes on Sunday mornings, I would go to the Union as soon as it opened and play that pianoā¦ no one was a fond (college students arenāt usually up and about on Sunday mornings) ā¦ I loved it so much. It had this amazing buttery sound that just made everything I played sound wonderful.
Ever since then Iāve always had a soft spot for Schimmels.