The Inner Game of Music

ShiroKuro

by reading the summary I know now that it is not on top of my reading list.

this is quite valuable isn't it!

I do believe there are many benefits from ChatGPT (and other genAI programs) but the drawbacks are kind of scary to me! /threaddrift

ShiroKuro

Animisha "Are you familiar with the book: The inner game of music by Barry Green?"

Oh, I meant to say, well, now I will have to ask about my book. 😛

ShiroKuro

Pallas not in the public forum, don't want to "out" myself! 😅

It's just a boring academic book (and defintely not a money-maker) but I'll PM you

ShiroKuro

Pallas Anonymity!

I might be more cagey than some, but years ago when I got very active on PW, my spouse asked me to stay anonymous (for safety as much as antyhing else), and so I've tried to do so ever since.

ranjit

Animisha I have not read the book, but Chat-GPT has. I asked for a summary. Here it is!

I would caution against using chatgpt too much. You can get a very broad overview, but it often messes up the details in subtle but important ways, and often doesn't get to the "core" of the premise.

Something like this website seems much more helpful to me.
https://fourminutebooks.com/the-inner-game-of-tennis-summary/

Animisha

Thank you for your warning, ranjit
I know that everything Chat-GPT says needs to be checked. However, there are many situations in which it is more helpful than any website could be.

(Off topic: This January, I changed from a PC with Microsoft to a MiniMac. The change was much more challenging than expected. But the good thing was that I had a tireless and friendly assistant. Whatever the problem, I described it and I sent screen shots to Chat-GPT and I got very good help. The best moment was when none of Chat-GPT's tips worked, and I sent a screen shot to show it, and then Chat-GPT said: "On your screen shot, I can see that you have this particular setting that is messing things up." This setting was something we had not talked about at all. I changed the setting and everything worked like a dream.)

ranjit

Animisha However, there are many situations in which it is more helpful than any website could be.

I think it is a great tool for searching for information, similar to what you did here.

ShiroKuro

ranjit Exactly. We just have to be very... careful in how much we rely on it.

Exactly. The Inner Game summary is a great example, the summary can't substitute for reading the actual book, but I think it can help you decide if you want to read it in full.

Then the only other thing people need to remember is that, when using genAI to try to get information about something you don't know about (which is the most common use case), the danger is that the user doesn't have enough knowledge to be able to judge the quality of the output. Which means they can't judge the truth value, or the sufficiency or relevance of the information....

ranjit

ShiroKuro Exactly. The Inner Game summary is a great example, the summary can't substitute for reading the actual book, but I think it can help you decide if you want to read it in full.

I thought the summary was quite poor, compared to the user written summary I linked for instance. It talks about a few suggestions and theories and makes it sound like a self-help book imo. It also includes a lot of details that aren't as central to the premise. I wasn't inclined to read the book after reading the ChatGPT summary, but I definitely was after reading the other one.

ShiroKuro

@ranjit I didn't read the link you shared (sorry!) and I have already read the actual book, so I myself am interested and planning to reread it, which I think makes me not a good judge, because I'm already interested. But I was just thinking of the summary as helpful to @Animisha and hence a "great example" of a good genAI use case, but your comment pretty much negates that, doesn't it! 😃

BTW I asked Copilot (MS's genAI) to summarize my book, and it was very short, and very dry. -_- basically empty of what makes the book interesting.

Ugh. Seriously, I dislike AI immensely.

sweelinck

If you have to read the book to assess the accuracy of ChatGPT or to understand the concepts presented accurately, then I'd consider the ChatGPT output to border on useless.

I found it to be marginally more useful at best than a table of contents.

ShiroKuro

sweelinck If you have to read the book to assess the accuracy of ChatGPT or to understand the concepts presented accurately, then I'd consider the ChatGPT output to border on useless.

Exactly!

I know, I know, I’m contradicting what I wrote up above, but that’s ok, I’m human and I changed my mind 😃

fata760

So many familiar names here from PW.

Hi all 👋

ShiroKuro

Welcome @fata760 !!