ShiroKuro I think youāve mentioned that you live in a place with a good music school and that you take lessons with someone whoās affiliated with the school. I have to imagine there are other adult students like you ā and Iām wondering if thereās a way to find those other students and see if there is interest in getting together to play. It seems to me like a lot of adult learners like opportunities to share with other people who share this interestā although perhaps in a more casual/friendly setting than a full-on recital.
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Sgisela I have to imagine there are other adult students like you ā
This is my assumption as well!
and Iām wondering if thereās a way to find those other students
Believe me, I've been trying!
And yes, I work at a public uni with a pretty famous and highly regarded music school. But oddly, I feel like that makes it harder to be just a generic adult piano hobbyist... Everyone is pro level, and the music school has so many music related events, that maybe that's why it feels like there are fewer community-level things going on. Also, although the music school offers community music lessons and various activities for adults for stringed instruments, they don't have anything for adults and piano-related things, only for high school aged and down. This really surprised me, but I think it may be just that their resources are 100% in use.
For comparison, before we moved here, I worked at a uni with a small, not famous, music department. They offered lessons in all instruments to the community, and there were more music things happening in the community not connected to the uni.
So what I'm experiencing may be like the paradox a person encounters moving to a major urban metro city and having a hard time meeting people or making friends, while the person in a small town has a much easier time getting connected to the community.
Oh and re my piano teacher, he got his PhD in piano here, and he is currently teaching at a community music school while his wife finishes her PhD in violin here. The community school where I take lessons does recitals for kids, and I have the impression that they don't have many adult students. I have asked my piano teacher but his other students are all kids and his wife's contacts are all through the university (IOW top level, future professional musicians).
Now, of course we've only lived here for a little over a year, so I hope I'll find some piano friends over time. And I'm really looking for to meeting the cellist this week. So I haven't given up all hope! 
Shoot! My tuner was just here (fixing a buzz on middle C, thank you!!) I should have asked him about hobby pianists and community music activities.
Next time!
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The solo performance is organized by "Canadian Piano Society". Since Canada is a big country, the group is specific to just 1 city. The group is on Facebook. There is a website "meetup.com" that posts social gatherings in the area including single dance parties, hiking, nature walks, etc. The piano group probably started shortly after the C-19 lockdown here. The meeting place is in an office building in a large room used by an Unitarian church. We are there 4x /yr (1 meetup every 3 months).
There is no rule what pieces we can perform. Some would play Classical, others would play Pop or Jazz improv. Not everybody plays with sheet music. Last time there was a young performer (probably in elementary school) playing some beginner /lower intermediate pieces with his parents in the audience.
Music in church is more common. However, not everybody is into Christianity or religion in general. Traditional hymns tend to be in SATB (soprano, alto, tenor & bass). Gospel music is mainly singing on top of chords so there is improv along the way. The choir leader would decide the vocal range suitable for the singers and the guitar & keyboard would fill in in certain keys by ear than by sheet music.
Thanks for the info, @thepianoplayer416 ! That gives me some ideas about where to look around here. I've checked meetup.com a few times but never found any piano activities there.
Our meetup has been postponed. 
The cellist's availability changed. But! looking on the bright side, assuming we can reschedule, I'm going to recommend we add a piece (we already have one that we were planning to play together at the first meeting)
Fingers crossed!
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Ok, we're back on!!
I'm meeting the cellist tomorrow!! Yay! We have two pieces we'll work on, and maybe pick a few more.
Also, my teacher connected me with a local group (actually run by students in my uni's music school) that performs several concerts a year at a retirement center. I am going to play in the concert at the end of November! I'm so excited!!!
Now I have to pick my pieces for that. I can do up to 15 minutes of music.... I think I may need to make a thread just about that...
I'm attending a piano meetup this Sunday. I haven't been performing piano pieces in public for a while. The last time was last November playing "What a Wonderful World" in a store with an untuned piano.
Not sure how many will be at the event. A month ago whan I signed up there were only 4 names on the list. The repertoire is totally open and announced by each performer at the event. I've picked 2 Bach pieces including my arrangement of a Chorale in Cm and "Sarabande" from French Suite #3 in Bm. I worked on both pieces before and know them reasonably well.
This is not a competition but a chance for people to gain confidence playing in front of others starting with a small audience up to 20 at most. Some will be playing from the score while others improvise. Nobody is judged so mistakes are allowed.
thepianoplayer416 This is not a competition but a chance for people to gain confidence playing in front of others starting with a small audience up to 20 at most. Some will be playing from the score while others improvise. Nobody is judged so mistakes are allowed.
Sounds wonderful!!
Next week, I will get more information about the event I'm playing at, but I don't think it's like what you're describing, which to me sounds like a "music for musicians" kind of event. Maybe some day I can find one like that -- or make my own!
Make your own if there is not one around you. I made one, which started really small and gradually grew over the years. We are in our fifth year. We meet monthly, go from house to house, and have one formal recital in the fall in a local church. We don't have any rules, collect no dues or fees, and allow any type of music.
Our monthly meetings start at 3PM, and we each play one or two pieces. We bring food to share after playing. It is all very low key and a lot of fun. We even have some people who do not play and just come to listen. We average about 10 or 12 people each month, but when we started it was only 4 or 5. We do not advertise or publicize our events in any way - it is all friends telling friends.
I also belong to another, much more formal, group that has dues, rules, and a more intimidating atmosphere. They meet monthly in a piano store (one reason for the dues), have one Zoom meeting a month, and one meeting in a home every month - so very active. And also periodic concerts and other events.
If you are in Georgia, either north or south of Atlanta, and want to join us - send me a PM.
Sam
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ShiroKuro
Today practiced the 2 pieces I'm planning to perform for just over an hour. I performed pieces on violin before but not very much on a piano.
A few years ago I was at a Christmas gathering. At least half the people in the room said they took music lessons for a few years but nobody was comfortable playing a tune on the digital keyboard in the room. I've given it a lot of thought. I've always feel there is a disconnect between what people learn in the classroom and what they should be able to do supposedly, In a typical workplace, if you say you took Spanish classes, the manager expects you to be able to communicate with customers in Spanish than the fact that you took Spanish for 10 years. Apparently some people who spent years learning music and even took conservatory exams but performing in front of others is still a challenge.
I also met music students who performed before. Some would stick to pieces assigned by their teachers. I don't have problem playing my own pieces the way I feel they should be performed. The upcoming event on Sunday gives me the opportunity to showcase my playing and to share my passion for music with others.
Sam Make your own if there is not one around you.
I would love to do this. The group you started sounds exactly like what I want. But itās kind of hard to get it started without at least one other friend who plays. Thatās why I reached out to the strings teacher, because sheās the only music teacher Iāve found so far who specifically caters to adults. And through her is how I got to connected to the cellist Iām going to go meet today. Hopefully meeting her and doing the retirement home concerts will help me start to get to know more musicians.
I would also be happy to be part of something like the dues paying group you described, but so far I havenāt found something like that and thereās not a big music store (or even a small music store) here in town. Iāve been wondering if thereās a church with a nicely maintained piano that would let a group like that rent the space. So again, hopefully I can make a few more connections and then help things grow from there.
I think the big thing is bringing together people who play, because we are each otherās best audience, for one thing. For another, Iām wondering about playing at the retirement centerā¦ what I mean is, the people who attend may not be interested in the kind of music Iām playing, and Iāve been thinking about the question of āwho this event is forāā¦ Is it for them, the audience? Or for us, the musicians? It seems to me that the answer to that question should inform the way you choose what to play. Ideally it could be a bit of both, of course. But Iām going to talk to my piano teacher about that today.
thepianoplayer416 I do think piano students should be encouraged to make performing for others part of their piano study, although not everyone wants to do that.
But for adult beginners (or people who started as adults) it can be hard to play when you feel like the expectation is that youāll play at a professional level. I think thatās what stops people from playing casually when thereās a piano and someone says āwhy donāt you play?ā
But on the other hand, if thereās even one person brave enough to make the first move, then it makes it easier for everyone else.
I hosted my program at my house a few weeks ago (so about five profs and 10 grad students from uni). Someone asked me to play, so I did ā far from perfectly but it was fine. Well after that, all the students who had played when they were younger wanted to try the piano. I found a book that had some pieces they knew and several of them poked around at the piano together, it was charming. And probably they were encouraged by my normal (i.e. not professional) level of playing.
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Around Christmas a cello player who lives across town would hold a holidays gathering. There is a lot of Christmas carols singing. Some in the group belong to a church choir so they can really sing. Others like myself would play some of the time. Itās a relaxed social gathering with lots of appetizers on the table. Unlike in a solo recital, in a holidays gathering you donāt feel youāre the center of attention with the audience in anticipation you wouldnāt miss a note.
I would love to be able to play while people sing Christmas carols... but that's not the kind of thing I'm practicing for right now, so I don't think it would be easy to do, not this year anyway!
Although my sightreading is so much better than it used to be, maybe I'm overestimating the amount of prep it would require.
When I first started my group, we did have one rule - no piano teachers. The few people we had were not comfortable playing in front of teachers. That rule did not last. It turns out that piano teachers really wanted to join us and play - the average teacher doesn't get much opportunity to play outside of "work". In our membership now we have two very active teachers with large studios of kids and two retired teachers. So it might be a source of members in your group if you reach out to some music teacher associations.
What you want to avoid is having your monthly meetings become recitals. They should be an informal gathering of people that want to play for each other and share their music, even if the piece is a work-in-progress and far from finished.
And these groups are very fragile things. I worry that my group will fall apart someday, but so far the personalities and playing abilities are a good match. It helps that we have all become friends.
Sam
The main thing about gatherings with music is to have everybody feel relaxed if they want to play a few tunes. Obviously some people are going to have more experience and technical abilities than others but shouldn't deter beginners from playing easy pieces on the piano.
A while ago my father attended concerts with amateur musicians. Some kids played the popular Bach "Arioso" from Cantata 156 on their violins. Coming from a non-musical family, he suggested that people who are not at a high level shouldn't be performing at all. Otherwise it's like a person showing off his/her playing.
Likewise a person learning a foreign language shouldn't wait until he/she learns all the grammar rules before getting into basic conversation. Otherwise there would be little progress. A piano meetup with amateur musicians at all levels is the place to give people the opportunity to express themselves through music. Making mistakes in a performance is part of the learning process.
Some people think of music learning as a competition to reach a high level. Before he would sit down to play something on the piano, the person would tell you he achieved ABRSM-5 or RCM-5. His grade level doesn't mean much until I hear how he performs.
The meeting on Sunday is going to be special for me. It's the 2nd time I play a piece that I arranged from an orchestral score with 4 or more instruments. Playing from your own sheet music you're not judged on the correct interpretation than a piece everybody knows well.
Sam What you want to avoid is having your monthly meetings become recitals
Why? I donāt mean that I disagree with you, but rather, Iām not sure I understand. What are the elements of a recital that should be avoided?
thepianoplayer416 A piano meetup with amateur musicians at all levels is the place to give people the opportunity to express themselves through music. Making mistakes in a performance is part of the learning process.
Yes!