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rsl12 · 2025-08-24T03:41:10+00:00

October 15, 2025 EDIT: "Play "Autumn Leaves" Your Way" is now live! You can continue to discuss your preparation of the piece here. The next PIYW will be ann...

HeartKeys

rsl12 okay I've incorporated a lot more than that at this point. I've been going very off-script (since that's all I do anyway) and meandering throughout that chord progression, lots of mashups came to mind.

I look forward to recording something in the coming weeks!

rsl12

HeartKeys it's interesting that you say you don't play jazz, when you seem to have all the jazz skills. I'm looking forward to hearing your recording!

ShiroKuro

@rsl12 that was great!

rsl12 Google Recorder

What is Google recorder? I will … google it (har) but what hardware are you using?

Sophia less Pachelbel

😃

rsl12

ShiroKuro What is Google recorder? I will … google it (har) but what hardware are you using?

I think Google Recorder is only available on Pixel. It's an audio recorder app on my phone. It has nice features like automatically transcribing voices, and distinguishing between different speakers. But the fact that it misses the first few seconds of my recordings is very annoying!

WieWaldi Interesting, you changed the style from jazzy to jazzy. IMO, there is nothing of Pachelbel in either version. I think Sophia must have a trauma, hearing Canon in D everywhere. How come?

Haha, Sophia and I are extra sensitive to a certain version of Canon. You are lucky that you cannot hear it!!

(If you really want to know, compare my earlier practice recording to this part .)

WieWaldi

rsl12 Well done. I like both your versions. Interesting, you changed the style from jazzy to jazzy. IMO, there is nothing of Pachelbel in either version. I think Sophia must have a trauma, hearing Canon in D everywhere. How come?

rsl12

Sophia How come the piano sounds so different? Did you use some other recording equipment?

Same piano, same phone! I'm glad that the style difference is so large it sounds like that major a change!

HeartKeys

rsl12 you don't play jazz

i should say i don't generally play jazz, or i.e., i have no background in jazz, and am not a jazz pianist. i did spend a big chunk this year though, listening to some cool Coltrane kind of music, and learning their progressions by ear. it's been a fun journey!

ShiroKuro

rsl12 I think Google Recorder is only available on Pixel.

Ahh. I am an iPhone user.

I wonder if Audacity has a phone version....

Re voice recording, I need to see what other apps are out there that distinguish between different speakers. The last time I looked, there weren't great options, but it's been a while, there should new and better options... /threaddrift

Sophia

rsl12 it misses the first few seconds of my recordings

What about you play one phantom note, wait a few seconds and then start your actual piece? Would Google be tricked into thinking you started then?

rsl12

Sophia That's pretty much what I do when I remember to do it. I need to change the name of the app to "WAIT A FEW 2NDS B4 SINGING PLZ" and then maybe I would remember.

Sophia

Lol! That reminds me of my husband who had a habit of leaving the pantry door open. Even a sign doesn’t always remind him to shut the door….

Ok, that was seriously off topic 😃

rsl12

Sophia LOLOLOL

rsl12

Yet another practice recording. (Am I boring you yet?) A few thoughts:

between singing and sheet music and hamilton and blues, it's been at least a year since I seriously tackled a jazz tune! I feel the rust coming off.
one annoying mistake I made was picking, without thinking, the Real Book key for autumn leaves (C minor). But the Wynton Kelly solo that I'm studying is in G minor. It's not a huge deal (and maybe it's even a little good for me to get the extra transposing practice) but normally I would have the forethought to pick the same key as what I'm studying.
as usual, Wynton makes it sound easy (and that's a big part of his charm).
For me, one of the hardest things is that he seems to be always thinking one chord change ahead. My bebop half-year study (see pianoworld recitals.. 72-73 I think?) taught me that thinking of ii-V-I as V-V-I can give a great result. Because of that practice I'm better at being able to get the right mindset.
right now I'm focused on Wynton's target notes. As usual, it's on the Vs that the most variety is possible, and I'm practicing targeting the 4th and the b9 in particular.
This is the first time that I've been aware of laid back timing in Wynton's playing. I really like it, and I've practiced it before when studying a Errol Garner solo, but find it very difficult to do unless I make a very conscious effort to apply the effect. So you might hear a little in this recording.

*I think I'm not going to get to study Dave McKenna this time around. There is too much to study in Wynton's recording that seems within my reach.

WieWaldi

rsl12 Gosh - every time you come up with another version. It is not, that you are working on a specific one and improving it. No, you are presenting a totally different style of playing. Every time a jazz style, and every time the piece is called Autumn Leaves, but here stops the commonality of your practice recording. It feels as if you submitted already 3 different pieces.

Sophia

rsl12 (Am I boring you yet?

Never! It's really nice to hear your "attempts" come together. Very nice harmonies and punctuations etc. Now I humbly go back to my "plink... pause... plonk... think... kaplank GAH that should have been kaplenk!" Just so you know how we BBs (I say BBs because TBs sounds a bit... sickening) are struggling 😃

I can't post in public what I what I like to tell WieWie for suggesting the piece.... but @#@*$%&@@#$^ probably comes close 😄

ShiroKuro

rsl12 that was great!! 👍

HeartKeys

rsl12 nice progress!

it's so interesting how this song can be concocted in millions of different ways, especially the left hand (syncopation/arpeggios/bass/chords) etc.

rsl12

WieWaldi thank you for listening! Sometimes I try to force a technique or a lick into a improv practice recording, but generally I try to free my mind and play as naturally as possible.

rsl12

Sophia I can't post in public what I what I like to tell WieWie for suggesting the piece.... but @#@*$%&@@#$^ probably comes close 😄

Oh no! I've seen Likas' other 2+2 scores, and I can imagine big jumps and wide reaches. You can always play 1+2 or 2+1 in the necessary places. Good luck!

Sophia

Ok, this might be a good time to confess that I actually don’t know what those terms mean 😋

rsl12

Sophia It's super simple! Whenever there is a chord, you play two notes with the left hand plus two notes in the right hand. (The top note in the right hand is the melody, but still, he calls it 2+2.) So if you are having trouble, I suggest trying to eliminate one of the harmony notes.

Sophia

rsl12 Ahhhh one more of life’s mysteries solved! Thank you ❤️

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